Reply With Quoteweak squat and dead and press and clean(cif you have good form) at your height and weight. cant speak for the bench tho. too early.Originally Posted by Alex Willess
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Starting Texas method.
Well, I haven't been keeping a very consistant log but I just switched from SS to the Texas method today, so we will see how it goes. Just in case anybody was thinking about switching I will try and keep my log up to date so anybody can look at my results and see if it is the right time for them to switch.
BW - ~200lbs
BF% - ~17%
HT - 5'10"
Current 5x3 before Texas method
Squat - Measly 230lbs. Still progressing fine, much harder though.
Bench - 225. Soon to stall, previous one rep max was 305 before shoulder injury. After was 250lbs. Estimated today is about 270.
Deadlift - 330. Progress is fine.
Overhead press - 140. Stalled Dead. Deload and micro plates used, still stalled. I probably need to eat and sleep more. Just started back to school so unlikely to happen.
Powerclean - 150. Doing just fine.
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weak squat and dead and press and clean(cif you have good form) at your height and weight. cant speak for the bench tho. too early.
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You are right about my weakness simonsky. I will be the first to admit it. I do however feel that my bench will be better served by the texas method to a degree more than my squat will suffer. My deadlift should progress fairly normally. Now as far as the program goes my first day for volume went very well. I feel great. I will see how my heavy day goes to determine if this was the right time to try this. I figure a 4 week trial will give me a good idea and I will likely stay on it. I do not have a whole lot to loose doing this as I am sure it is better than the crap I was doing prior to SS. Maybe my starting numbers will show something.
Squat 150x5x3 +80lbs
BP 210x5x3 +15lbs
OP 120x5x3 +20lbs
PC 130x5x3 +20lbs
DL 270x5x1 +60lbs
Wow, actually looking at the numbers is a reality check that I have not accomplished shit. To many periods of inactivity and travel in there compared to periods of training and deloads/resets. Texas may be detrimental to my training but I have to go with my gut feeling and give it a shot. Nobody knows their body better than themselves, and I really think that right now is the right time. If I am not seeing my expected results in a month I will switch back. The worst that can happen is that I fail badly and provide an important lesson for everybody else. Thanks for the swift kick in the ass simonsky, maybe I am stubborn and don't listen, but maybe me trying to make it work will have the desired effect.
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You can do TM on the bench while maintaining SS/novice progression on the other lifts.
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i think if you switch to intermediate early , it is only counterproductive in terms of wasted gains but not because you wont progress because as a novice "you would progress from anything". although can someone disprove me from their experience that they didnt progress from TM switching early (provided they eat properly).
if you want you could TM the bench and leave everything on SS.
you are really wasting your potential. i stopped SS at 5'7 165 because i had a piss poor diet with my protein intake not even equaling my BW(lbs.) in grams. if i had more money i would recontinue.
yet i wonder why i squat moar than you. (stopped at 280x5x3 no belt)
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I eat a shitload probably about 6000 cal a day. So I doubt that is my limiting factor. I put on about 30lbs. Went from 170-200 in a few months. As far as my piss poor squat. I am not really sure. I look at other peoples lifts and see many who squat a fair amount more than me and bench and op much less than me. I am not really sure why. Although a little background might go a long way in explaining, but it is no excuse and I will not let it hinder me.
My right leg is about 3/8 an inch shorter than my left. Not to big a deal in my opinion. About 8 years ago (shit that makes me fell old now) when I was 16 I broke my left femur clear in half right at the head of the femur. I have a good chunk of that leg missing on the outside of my thigh (~6"x.5" and who knows how deep). I have titanium pins and rods throughout the entire femur and pain is extreme and intermitent (not subject to squats but to the weather and running) and I feel this might hinder my squats in some form. It is not a good excuse to squat low weight but rather a reason why my squat is not preportionate to my bench. I also have longer legs and a shorter torso which might also add to this. You can also ad years of benching and zero leg work to the equation and it makes complete sense.
I have thought about doing a hybrid and continuing squats as normal and texas my bench. I think that maybe some good shock to my CNS with my squat will help activate my true potential and fix what might be wrong if I actually try a max single every few weeks. Maybe not. In the grand scheme of things I don't think I am loosing very much in the terms of beginner gains and hope that further experimentation with my body might help me see what works best for me. I do remember that max singles every few weeks is what originally got my bench so high in the first place. And that was at a body weight of 165. Maybe I just react better to that stimulation. Fuck, who knows. If I fail horribally I will be a further example of wasted potential.
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whatever you choose, just squat, you cant go wrong with that.
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+1. TM for the Bench, SS for the rest, IMO.
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Have you done any resets on the squats? If yes, have you tried the advanced novice program for squats with light squats on wednesday for more recovery?
I think there is still enough room for linear progression, and TM is too early.
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How long have you been on the SS program? I see you posted back in June about your workouts, so I'll assume 3.5-4 months. An 80lb gain over 4 months does not the SS program make. Hell, even your bench (a lift which you seem especially proud of) only progressed 15lbs. Perhaps this is due to starting the BP with too much weight?
I think this is the problem, not a "lack of shock to the CNS". I think that instead of giving up on the beginning SS program, you should give it a try.
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