My 1x5 DLs turned into 5x1s, is it a problem?

[rivo]

I'm deadlifting 345lbs at the moment. Somewhere along the way, maybe at around 270lbs, the breaks between the reps of my work set got longer and longer. Breathing being the main reason but also reducing the risk of a blackout (see my other post). I try not to wait too long before the next rep but I definitely can't call them 1x5 sets anymore.

My feeling is that I'm basically training my DLs at my 1RM now and I wonder if that is (or may become) a problem. I'm still progressing (albeit slowly at this point) so I'm not sure if this is even worth discussing. I could probably reset to 270lbs and do them properly, 1x5. But would there be any point to that?

What are your thoughts?

[Eric Larousse]

I'm deadlifting 345lbs at the moment. Somewhere along the way, maybe at around 270lbs, the breaks between the reps of my work set got longer and longer. Breathing being the main reason but also reducing the risk of a blackout (see my other post). I try not to wait too long before the next rep but I definitely can't call them 1x5 sets anymore.

My feeling is that I'm basically training my DLs at my 1RM now and I wonder if that is (or may become) a problem. I'm still progressing (albeit slowly at this point) so I'm not sure if this is even worth discussing. I could probably reset to 270lbs and do them properly, 1x5. But would there be any point to that?

What are your thoughts?

try this......1x5 then when you stall do 2x3 then 3x2 then 5 singles across then just 1x1 after you stall on the 1x1 switch back to 1x5 but use the same weight you used when you stalled on 1x5 the first time and keep repeating the cycle

[tzanghi]

try this......1x5 then when you stall do 2x3 then 3x2 then 5 singles across then just 1x1 after you stall on the 1x1 switch back to 1x5 but use the same weight you used when you stalled on 1x5 the first time and keep repeating the cycle

Using this method, when switching between the rep schemes due to a stall, do you use the same weight after you switch? For instance if I fail 1x5 at 350, the next week do I use 3x2x350 or 3x2x355 or some other weight?

[Eric Larousse]

two triples at 350 yes

[kessg]

....after you stall on the 1x1 switch back to 1x5 but use the same weight you used when you stalled on 1x5 the first time and keep repeating the cycle

Could you clarify? So if you stall @ 350 lb, then go back to 350? Where is the progress in this scheme? Or is the assumption that when you go back to 350, you should be able to do 1X5 355, 360 etc in the training sessions to follow?

[Eric Larousse]

ok

start with 1x5 and run until you hit a stall say you manage 4 reps with 350

it will look like this....

335x5
340x5
345x5
350x5 except it was a real grinder and you dont think you will hit 360x5 so you go to
360x3x2
365x3x2
370x3x2
375x3x2 getting tuff again so you move to
380x5x1(5 singles)
385x5x1
390x5x1(you failed or are about to fail so we move on to...)
395x1
400x1
405x1
410x1
415x1(probly wont make 420x1 so go back to 5s
350x5
355x5
360x5
etc.

if you fail a weight say you got 350x4 well you then switch the rep scheme but when you go back you should hit the 350x5 now then progress from there

[Mart002]

watch your recovery as well with the deadlift, fatigue can build up if pulling weekly at around the 2xBW mark leading to fails. its better to swith to pulling every two weeks with weekly rotation with the speed DL or rack pulls for istance (just another deadlift variant) with less stress in the pull but still the same movement. For my I wouldnt pull sets at all as I find its to much, Similar to the above my scheme is simply (but rotated every week with the variant, progress wieght until the fail point)

1x5
1x5 fail
1x3
1x3 fail
1x2
1x2 fail
1x1
1x1 fail reset.
1x3 etc

[Tom Campitelli]

Have you ever actually blacked out from deadlifts, or just cleaning a bar and going for a walk with it.

[rivo]

Not actually blacked out but got pretty close to it after putting the bar down. The post I linked to describes that one time where I did black out. (I'm doing front squats, too, but I never got close to blacking out on those.)