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    Default Am I ready for a 180kg 1RM attempt?

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    Actually I'd prefer 182 but 180 is fine too.

    I'm running TM and my last 5x5 was 150 and previous week's ID was 3 singles @171.

    I've been doing singles across for 2 months or so now because of programming/nutrition error but decided to run things out (was expecting it to run out sooner than this). These last two weeks have been noticeably tougher than the first 6 weeks of singles. V day is a bitch and is really aggravating my asthma. I don't think I'll be able to keep this pace up much longer, and would like to start a new TM cycle soon.

    Looking at PP it seems like I'm using the same ratio Rip uses for the last sets of singles across. His example used singles for only a few weeks where I've used them much longer... so I'm not sure if that complicates estimating what I should be capable of.

    I'm not using a belt or wraps if that's a factor.

    If I make the attempt and fail, what do I do? Try again? Go to my normal ID jump? Or call it a day? Rip always mentions that one should avoid failing a rep since it's an extremely taxing event.

    I really wanna perform a 180+ squat before July. It's been my goal since starting SS almost a year ago. Just not sure if I should attempt it now or push through Vday another week or 2.
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    Do you think you are ready or not? Because you're probably right either way.
    Also, 150x5x5 seems quite a lot for volume day when ID are 171 singles, IMO.

    FWIW, I did 180 when squatting 167,5 x 5 on ID and 140 x 5 x 5 on VD. But everybody is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimmy View Post
    Actually I'd prefer 182 but 180 is fine too.

    I'm running TM and my last 5x5 was 150 and previous week's ID was 3 singles @171.

    I've been doing singles across for 2 months or so now because of programming/nutrition error but decided to run things out (was expecting it to run out sooner than this). These last two weeks have been noticeably tougher than the first 6 weeks of singles. V day is a bitch and is really aggravating my asthma. I don't think I'll be able to keep this pace up much longer, and would like to start a new TM cycle soon.

    Looking at PP it seems like I'm using the same ratio Rip uses for the last sets of singles across. His example used singles for only a few weeks where I've used them much longer... so I'm not sure if that complicates estimating what I should be capable of.

    I'm not using a belt or wraps if that's a factor.

    If I make the attempt and fail, what do I do? Try again? Go to my normal ID jump? Or call it a day? Rip always mentions that one should avoid failing a rep since it's an extremely taxing event.

    I really wanna perform a 180+ squat before July. It's been my goal since starting SS almost a year ago. Just not sure if I should attempt it now or push through Vday another week or 2.
    personal experience......you should be right. I am an old guy and first time I did 180 was when I was doing about 140 for volume.

    On the chosen day replace your ID workout....Treat it as a mini meet. Three attempts...160.170.180. record your lifts as you may be high if you are worried about getting back up. If you feel strong after 170 , go for 182.5.

    ...and next time, use a belt. It will make a great deal of difference.

    Good luck...post the video and get some pointers too. It all helps.

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    How hard were the singles at 171?

    Anyway, I would just wait until you're closer. If you're going to do a 1RM attempt, definitely work up to it as turnip suggested. Second attempt based on first attempt, third attempt based on second attempt. If it's not there, don't force it especially in training. If you want to see what your do-or-die 1RM is, enter a meet.

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    You can estimate your 1RM weight here. Doesn't matter if the weight is kgs or lbs.

    Based on 5x5x150, your 1RM would be about 172, which is what your 1RM is now. To get to a 1RM of 182, you'd need to do at least a 1x5 at 158. So, you're not far off. Of course, this is just an estimate. Actual, 1RM may be higher or lower than the estimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swingshiftworker View Post
    Based on 5x5x150, your 1RM would be about 172, which is what your 1RM is now.
    No... Don't calculate a 1RM based on a 5x5 weight, because a weight you can lift for a 5x5 isn't a 5RM. I squatted 425x5x5 the same week as 475x5. e1RM at that time was probably more like 545. Readiness varies day to day, depending on fatigue, arousal, nutrition, etc.

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    Thanks guys.

    I hurt my tailbone or something near it either on V day or L day the week before. It was just slightly tender until I day, after which I couldn't really walk for a day. Next V day also had to drop the weight. 152 was too tough and so I dropped down to 135 after two sets.

    Just finished I day today. Warmed up with 180 as my work weight in the SS calc, plus one rep at 160 and 170 as mentioned earlier. Went for 180 with two spotters and well, one spotter fucked it up. I immediately did a second rep and he lifted one side again. To make sure I could do one on my own I did one more set.

    All in all I'm really surprised I was able to squat 180 twice in one set. I felt so good even though 170 felt tough. That spotter pissed me off though, cause I made it clear I didn't want him touching the bar.

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    Thanks for the advice guys!

    Now I need to figure out why my ass hurts and reset my squat cycle. So you guys thought there wasn't a big enough gap between V day and I day? Should I make a bigger gap this cycle?
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    Good work..... and next time no spotters. If you can't trust them, then just rely on the safeties to do their job.

    ......and get a belt.

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    I hit 190 for a lifetime PR single when my VD was 155x5x5 back when I ran TM, but it was a good day.

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