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    Default Significantly Reduced muscle endurance

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    Quick back ground:
    I am 5' 9'', 187 lbs. Currently doing texas method. Squat 5RM: 325, DL 5RM: 385, press 5RM: 155. I have been lifting on and off but with good consistency within the last 6 months. I eat pretty good meals 3-4 times a day with nutritious snacks in between. I get about 8-9 hours of sleep every day.

    I have this feeling in pretty much all my muscles that they wear out and get lactic acid build up significantly quicker than before I used to lift. It also feels like the compartment around my muscle is exerting too much pressure after repetitive use of a muscle. For example:

    -I can't hold my hand above for any time near what I used to before I started lifting.
    - My lower back wears out a lot quicker if I am doing a task that requires me to stand in a slightly angled position. It is definitely much stronger but can't hold up for the same time as before.
    - The same can be said about my grip, hamstrings and ...

    I thought I might not be getting enough recovery. So for 2 weeks I only did a very low intensity and low volume work for 3 days a week. It still made no difference.

    Then I went to an orthopedic specialist and realized it was a big waste of time. An example of his response was that you need to strengthen your back. He said that: " deadlifts just "stress" your back, what you need to do is back extensions!!!!

    Any insights ?

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    This is a typical initial adaptation to a strength program. You'll get used to the feeling, and you'll stop interpreting it as a lack of muscle endurance, because it's just your interpretation. I've never heard this before, and I damned sure have never heard of anybody going to the fucking DOCTOR for it.

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    I'm experiencing similar symptoms as the OP. Ever since I got bigger I have the same quick back fatigue and shoulder fatigue. Not once has it crossed my mind to go to the doctor for it though. Maybe a masseuse?

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    What would a typical initial adaptation be ? When I did the novice starting strength 3x5, it didn't go away even after 6 months. I still had a good gain of going from 165 lb body weight to 185lb. But I was not able to and still can't do any running. After 10-15 mins of mostly light running and a little sprinting my calf muscles and quads will feel extremely tight and numb. You could even tell by touching, that the muscle has turned as hard as a rock. within a few more mins it would be impossible for me to continue even light running since those muscle are almost fully numb. But after I fully stop my running and sit down within 5 mins it is fully back to normal. This problem just doesn't seem to go away.

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    You've apparently been crippled by barbell training. Micheal, have you been destroyed physically to this extent?

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    Sounds like massage time!

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    No, I have not. The worst I get from running is lower back pain once I start approaching the 1 mile mark. Its worse if I run after a day of squatting or deadlifts.

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    Why are you running?

    When you lift, you get stronger. When you run, you feel like shit. Stop running. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDRISCKY View Post
    Why are you running?

    When you lift, you get stronger. When you run, you feel like shit. Stop running. Simple.
    That's a bit of a generalization surely? Someone can squat say to get better at running for sure. ...Some ppl dont feel like shit when they run, and enjoy running. Humans have been running for 200,000 years. You do it enough you get better at it. I'm not saying for one moment you should be running, it's your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kako View Post
    What would a typical initial adaptation be ? When I did the novice starting strength 3x5, it didn't go away even after 6 months. I still had a good gain of going from 165 lb body weight to 185lb. But I was not able to and still can't do any running. After 10-15 mins of mostly light running and a little sprinting my calf muscles and quads will feel extremely tight and numb. You could even tell by touching, that the muscle has turned as hard as a rock. within a few more mins it would be impossible for me to continue even light running since those muscle are almost fully numb. But after I fully stop my running and sit down within 5 mins it is fully back to normal. This problem just doesn't seem to go away.
    If you want to get better at running, you need to run.

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