starting strength gym
Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 60

Thread: Mark - bad science

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    181

    Default Mark - bad science

    • starting strength seminar february 2025
    • starting strength seminar april 2025
    Since there is so much disinformation from medical and fitness industry accredited professionals, to the point of blatant falsehood, do you think the same BS happens in other fields in life? I won't name examples I could think of, but what are some other areas you think that the public is grotesquely misinformed by professionals?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    North Texas
    Posts
    55,133

    Default

    Obviously we are not the only victims.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Chicago Burbs, IL
    Posts
    1,620

    Default

    Clearly we can't be trusted with the truth. Reputations and funding are at stake that are well above our pay grade.

    Reading Taubes has been a real eye opener. The truth is out there... but you've really got to look.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Provo, Utah
    Posts
    520

    Default

    Oh hell. I'll bite.

    How about Global Warmng for starters??? Sheesh.

    The longer I'm in the world of science and engineering the longer I shake my head. The incompetence in the world of CNC machining--by so called experts--is astounding.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    874

    Default

    Interesting linguistic perspective: bad science can only be defined once good science is introduced. If all of it was "good", it would just be called science as none of it would be "bad". The dichotomy of good-bad and all the grey areas in between is easily one of the reasons why "experts" are bred, not born. And because science is performed by humans, there will always be both good and bad science. Neither expertise nor "goodness" is innate.

    QED nothing matters or means anything because everything is relative. Jk lol

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    2,464

    Default

    Any time you see or hear the word 'economists forecast' your probably being fed some grade A BS.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    348

    Default

    You may test the retardedness of any "scientist" or wannabe scientist or any guy thinking he knows how to think this question:

    "How come we have seasons?"
    or
    The guy will answer an explanation X.
    Then, you ask: "if X is true, then how to you explain that we have at the moment summer in Paris and winter in Perth? (or vice-versa)"

    95% of the time, the X will be BS, irrespective of "education" level: "uneducated" to Phd...

    And then, these guys will lecture you on how to do this and that...

    Not sure who is the idiot there: the educated moron or the moron being educated...

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    1,077

    Default

    This is what passes for a ER note (no offense to the SS illustrious resident ER physician):

    "...so not responding as usual and following instructions today she it's depth out to get something unit hotel 20 stay in the room out on her."

    There's more, but it's the same.

    Then, "...will admit to hospistalist service."

    Actually the note is perfect since the admission is for expressive aphasia.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    181

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew_888 View Post
    You may test the retardedness of any "scientist" or wannabe scientist or any guy thinking he knows how to think this question:

    "How come we have seasons?"
    or
    The guy will answer an explanation X.
    Then, you ask: "if X is true, then how to you explain that we have at the moment summer in Paris and winter in Perth? (or vice-versa)"

    95% of the time, the X will be BS, irrespective of "education" level: "uneducated" to Phd...

    And then, these guys will lecture you on how to do this and that...

    Not sure who is the idiot there: the educated moron or the moron being educated...
    Really? Not understanding the tilt of earths axis is uncommon?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Chicago Burbs, IL
    Posts
    1,620

    Default

    starting strength coach development program
    Words that should always raise red flags.
    - Cost estimate (why guarantee when you can merely estimate)
    - Scientific consensus (why prove when you can more easily infer consensus)
    - Preponderance of evidence (none of which is compelling enough to stand on its own)

    Suspicious behavior.
    - Personal attacks on people who decent (usually to some "claimed" consensus)
    - When observations are discredited which conflict the "prevailing wisdom"
    - Anyone quoting anything from the OMB (Office of Management and Budget) which creates "cost estimates" for the government

    * The OMB track record on cost estimates is hilarious, full order of magnitude misses are not uncommon.

    Start by knowing the funding of the research team and you magically know their conclusions. Coincidence I'm sure. But this is for established beliefs.

    WELL INTENDED LIES
    For those in formative stage... look to the most "politically correct". Example, when dietary guidance was in its formative stage, there was a great deal of "concern" about feeding the world and if we could push people to eat a higher carb diet in the US, it might save people from starving elsewhere. Certainly in some minds, pushing this agenda was more important than telling the truth.

    The synthetic "truth" about dietary Fat causing heart disease, gained momentum and very powerful allies with deep pockets. People drawing the logical conclusions from the "actual research data" were marginalized as "fringe lunatics". Observations that did not comply with the AHA's central dogma were condemned as dangerous and unhealthy.

    HANDLING OF CRITICS
    The response to honest criticism and counter example is very telling. If these people are treated as heretics... then you are dealing with a religion. It is not science, period.

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •