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    Default Bushings or Needle Bearings?

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    Hi,
    i have difficulties to find the correct bar for my need.
    Is it better to buy a bronze bushing bar or a needle bearing bar for SQ, BP, OVHP, DL and PC?
    Also, is it really necessary to have a center knurl?
    Thx for any advise.

    PS i do live in Germany.
    I don't really know which brand to choose.

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    Barbell Basics | Mark Rippetoe

    Unless you are an Olympic lifter, and maybe not even then, you don't need a bearing bar.

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    Thanks.
    Good to know.
    Well, i don't want to spend 400€ for a Rouge bar (with tax, shipping, from RougeEurope in Belgium) but i can't find a proper alternative in the internet.
    It seems only American brands build proper bars.
    I do barbell training for almost 2 years now with a cheap 30mm bar, because i didn't know if i'd keep doing this workout.
    But it worked pretty well for me and now i want to buy some proper equipment.
    My rack and bench is good.
    So, i have to buy a new bell and weights.
    What do you think about brass bushings?

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    Bushings are just fine. Oil them twice a year.

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    Okay.
    What do you think about the following specs:

    Suprfit Warrior Elite Bar:
    20 kg
    220cm
    28 mm (IWF und IPF Markings)
    50 mm
    Sleeve: 420 mm
    PSI-Wert: 180.000+ (Pfund pro 2,5 cm^2)
    Max 680kg
    Max Back Squats, Deadlifts: 400kg
    Material: Federstahl, it's special steel
    Color: Black / Chrom
    Finishing: Mangan-Phosphat (Schaft), Chrom (Endpins)

    2 x Suprfit Bumper Plate Black 5 kg
    2 x Suprfit Bumper Plate Black 10 kg
    2 x Suprfit Bumper Plate Black 20 kg

    + normal cast iron plates.

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    It looks delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip View Post
    Material: Federstahl, it's special steel
    Spring steel?

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    Yes.
    No whipping

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    Explain your theory on whippiness.

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    Well,

    i ended up buying the ROGUE Ohio Power Bar.
    The B&R bar is not available in Europe, so i've chosen the Ohio bar.
    I think it's a pretty good deal for 394€ (incl. shipping!)
    Only thing i miss is the Olympic WL mark.
    It has 205K PSI, that's what i meant with ,,no whip".
    Of course every bar has some whippines with a heavy load.

    Btw, i didn't do the SS program the last 2 years.
    I did a program from a German guy called WKM in the forums.
    Day A: SQ, BP, BB ROW
    Day B: DL, PRESS, Chin- UPS

    It worked pretty well for me.
    It was a coincidence when i discover the SS program.
    I searched for shoulder impingement at google.
    Well, i ended up buying the SS book and now a new bar and plates.
    I know it will bring me to another level and i'm very happy to do the program now.
    Only thing i don't know is how to deal with my shoulders.
    Doc told me, i have impingement.
    It comes from my back, or so.
    I should rest for a week, do some stretching and start the following week with less weight and more reps.

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