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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbonustoday View Post
    I think I understand what you're referring to. I do have the tendency to break my knees in two separate motions. I think doing it that way somehow helps me keep my balance better with the bar on my back?

    Do you think this is bad for the knees?
    I remember seeing your first squats and noticing some issues with setting the knees. It looks like you're just a bit uncertain about the when, where and 'how much' but I think you can smooth these out.

    I like to think "hips and knees together" to start the descent. Take that for a spin and see if it helps. On the way up, it's "hip drive."

    As you get comfortable keeping the load over the middle of your foot, these things will become more natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Since I've never seen it before, I don't know how to fix it. But I could figure it out with a few minutes on the platform with him.
    I know you would do that. It was more about what us mere mortals would do.

    I suppose if you've never seen it before then the likelihood of me encountering it in the wild is pretty low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Shenfield View Post
    I suppose if you've never seen it before then the likelihood of me encountering it in the wild is pretty low.
    I now predict you'll see it at least once within your first eight or so clients, Martin. Because Murphy is a mean SOB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Donaldson View Post
    I now predict you'll see it at least once within your first eight or so clients, Martin. Because Murphy is a mean SOB.
    Ha. Well at least you've predicted I'll have eight clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Shenfield View Post
    Ha. Well at least you've predicted I'll have eight clients.
    I do try to be kinder than Murphy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybach View Post
    You're doing what you were initially doing on the descent backwards: you are fully extending your hips before your knees finish extending. This is in effect an extremely late variation of the "raising chest early" fault.

    This will prevent you from squatting the weight before it hurts your knees.

    Your knees and hips should move as one: in the low bar squat, knee extension *produces* hip extension. Try to lock out your knees before you finish the rep. This should get them in line, since this mostly worked to fix it on the descent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Donaldson View Post
    Franklin, what exactly are you doing with your pelvic angle during each rep? You're breaking this movement up into unusual chunks, and I think I'm spotting something going on with you changing your pelvic tilt, and that may be what's initiating the distinct, choppy movement at the top. It's hard to tell with the dark clothing. You're not thinking of tightening your abs specifically, are you?

    If you are doing what I think I see, then it'll be affecting your lower back - check out this video, and see if it helps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZuB4t5cYkk

    You want to get to where the movement starts and ends together, and is a smooth transition down and back up, while keeping the lower back in the same extension the whole time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Watch your knees at the top of the squat on the way up. You have somehow developed a double-knee-bend at the top of the squat. I've never seen this before.
    Thanks a lot for feedbacks!

    I cued myself to break at hips first on the way down and extend knees first on the way up. Think below looks better although there's still some trace of it in the 5th rep.

    https://youtube.com/video/9uXnIsVII8g?feature=share

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