Serious question about Smith machine

[heinz83]

I'm guessing AI.

[Alexander Dargatz]

I'm guessing AI.

Artificial Idiocy.

[McBee99]

Artificial Idiocy.

I appreciate your thoughts Alex.

[Shiva Kaul]

I do not agree that the 2 factor model is obsolete, as I am a firm believer in it. You misunderstood my response.

The leg press is “unnatural” in a much different way than the squat is “unnatural”. The former departs from normal human biomechanics, whereas the latter departs just from any particular sport or activity. This invalidates your analogizing about the two-factor model.

Practically speaking, the leg press is useful only if you’re detrained or injured.

[McBee99]

The leg press is “unnatural” in a much different way than the squat is “unnatural”. The former departs from normal human biomechanics, whereas the latter departs just from any particular sport or activity. This invalidates your analogizing about the two-factor model.

Practically speaking, the leg press is useful only if you’re detrained or injured.

Haven't found that to be true, the leg press can develop tremendous improvements in strength.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Haven't found that to be true, the leg press can develop tremendous improvements in strength.

Fascinating.

[Maybach]

I would actually be very interested to hear even an anecdote about a person's squat going up due to work on the leg press for longer than a few weeks

McBee, what do your lifts look like and how do you train the leg press?

[Gerhard Häring]

Haven't found that to be true, the leg press can develop tremendous improvements in strength.

Newbie gains, most likely. How I miss those times

[smokeyjones]

Haven't found that to be true, the leg press can develop tremendous improvements in strength.

It's kind of crazy that this thread was a guy asking about a smith machine squat v a barbell squat & you've jumped in the middle to argue for the leg press.