Becoming stronger without gaining too much weight?

[kratos]

Hey guys, so I'm about one month into the program. I'm eating a mainly paleo diet, about 3000 calories a day or so and my lifts are making good progress. My deadlift went from 100lb to 225lb.

Only thing I'm concerned with is gaining too much size/weight. I was actually getting into competitive boxing before I got injured a while ago and I'd like to go back and get into the ring. My boxing coach was always against weight training, he advocated training with kettlebells and drilling plyometric exercises. But never compound lifts with linear progressions. Thing is, as soon as I'm finished SS, and as soon as my lifts are reasonably good then I'd like to transition into olympic lifting. I can't think of any exercise that taxes your nervous system as much as clean & jerks or power snatches. Nor any that develops explosiveness and speed like those two.

But, I'd like to get to as low a weight as possible. Basically I was a welterweight and I don't want to be fighting at light heavy weight lol (I'm 184 pounds atm, but at 18% BF). Honestly I'll go up a weight class after this program, it's unavoidable, but I want to stay as low as possible. And I don't want to become really big or buff. I want to be lean and skinny.

So I'm just wondering if there are any other athletes out there who powerlift, or do olys for your sport, and specifically if you also have to stay really lean or stick to a specific weight class. What are your thoughts/experiences/advice?

[Patrick Stroup]

[mmmsteak]

An adult male weighs at least 200 pounds. You want to be an adult male, don't you?

[aron]

An adult male weighs at least 200 pounds. You want to be an adult male, don't you?

Don Blue weighed 140 lbs. He deadlifted 500 lbs the first time he touched a bar. He was also a convict. He had legs and arms like tree trunks. Were he to hear you say that, I imagine he would kill you.

[BarbellSissy]

Don Blue weighed 140 lbs. He deadlifted 500 lbs the first time he touched a bar. He was also a convict. He had legs and arms like tree trunks. Were he to hear you say that, I imagine he would kill you.

It is simply impossible to have arms and legs like tree trunks at bodyweight of 140 lbs (64 kg). I would think his correct weight was 140 KG.

To kratos: I'm not a boxing expert, but if I were a boxer and my coach was against weight training I'd change coach. Especially if you are a novice. Seriously.
EDIT: btw. did you mean that you previously deadlifted 100 lbs and you are an almost-competing boxer? How long have you been training? EDIT

[aron]

It is simply impossible to have arms and legs like tree trunks at bodyweight of 140 lbs (64 kg). I would think his correct weight was 140 KG.

To kratos: I'm not a boxing expert, but if I were a boxer and my coach was against weight training I'd change coach. Especially if you are a novice. Seriously.

[BarbellSissy]

And where is it stated, that he weighted 140 lbs at the time? In the blog it is said he was 140 lbs when he lifted for the first time and deadlifted 500 lbs. It doesn't say he was 140 lbs when the photo was taken. I never said anything about being small and strong at the same time - I said it is impossible to be small and gigantic at the same time.

Apparently photo was taken from here: http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2009/01...ary-rader.html

[kratos]

It is simply impossible to have arms and legs like tree trunks at bodyweight of 140 lbs (64 kg). I would think his correct weight was 140 KG.

To kratos: I'm not a boxing expert, but if I were a boxer and my coach was against weight training I'd change coach. Especially if you are a novice. Seriously.
EDIT: btw. did you mean that you previously deadlifted 100 lbs and you are an almost-competing boxer? How long have you been training? EDIT

I haven't returned to boxing yet. I was boxing for about a year, had a few fights under my belt when I got into a pretty bad car accident. That really fucked everything up and I halted all training and physical activity for 2 years. But now I want to return, but before I return I want to work on my strength so I turned to SS. I've only been doing SS for one month but I've gained some okay progress on my lifts. My deadlift when I started a month ago was 100, and now it's 225. I uh am not doing any extra or unnecessary exercises or activities while I'm still in the novice stages. I don't know what my lifts would've been 2 years ago because I never did any.

What I'm hoping to get out of this is more explosiveness, speed and raw punching power strength. I want to switch to olys after 4-5 months of starting strength, THEN I'll go back to boxing and add on conditioning and other things. But yeah, I don't want to gain too much weight from this.

P.S. LOL @ the trolls.

[BarbellSissy]

Without deeper experience in the field, I'd say your plan seems reasonable.In my opinion It is a good idea to rebuild the strength foundation with SS as you said. Novice program has Power Cleans and when you get to intermediate stage, you can include more olympic lifts into the program. I'd allow some weight gain though during basic SS. (And continue to do weightlifting program of some sort after restarting boxing training)

[mmmsteak]

Don Blue weighed 140 lbs. He deadlifted 500 lbs the first time he touched a bar. He was also a convict. He had legs and arms like tree trunks. Were he to hear you say that, I imagine he would kill you.

A deadlift of 400 at 140 qualifies one for the Adult Midget class. Don't blame me, I didn't write the rules.