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Thread: How to deal with a coach's ineffective S&C program?

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    Default How to deal with a coach's ineffective S&C program?

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    Any former collegiate athletes ever have to deal with a coach forcing a program on you? Its not a good program, has us doing 1) way too much work in general 2) too much variation 3) no focus on the primary compound barbell lifts 4) conditioning that is haphazardly thrown in 5) no linear progression, some garbage 10-12 range and 'until failure' type stuff. ALL of us would benefit from an LP. No ones squatting over 300 for reps. But I'm really just concerned with convincing him to let me do my own program.

    I'd much rather continue with the WFAC S&C (the one lascek posted at one point) to meet my goals of getting stronger and the team goals of a 5:45 mile. Unfortunately, after teammates/coaches caught on that I wasn't doing their program, I'm in trouble.

    Should I just leave my copies of SS and PP on his desk with a note "enlighten yourself"?

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    What sport are you even doing?

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    I'm no expert, but I'm not sure LP and LDR belong in the same boat? I guess you can LP but I don't see it going very far alongside LDR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amsgator View Post
    I'm no expert, but I'm not sure LP and LDR belong in the same boat? I guess you can LP but I don't see it going very far alongside LDR.
    I am conditioning to run a 5:45 min mile, but im not going to be running more than a mile at any stage of training. The WF SC program is meant to find a middle ground between LP and reasonable conditioning. A lot of folks on the forum have used it and produced good results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkroman View Post
    What sport are you even doing?
    Lacrosse, I'm not sure why that's crucial information though. Question was how to handle a coach who isn't versed in strength and conditioning

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    Have Louie Simmons come set him straight. Many College and Professional teams train with Westside Methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaGains View Post
    Unfortunately, after teammates/coaches caught on that I wasn't doing their program, I'm in trouble.
    Just say, "Look, I am going to try it my way. After 3 months we'll judge by results and reassess. Fair enough?"

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    print this out and give it to your coach: Starting Strength: Article

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Schuant View Post
    Just say, "Look, I am going to try it my way. After 3 months we'll judge by results and reassess. Fair enough?"
    I feel like this is a good strategy, especially since there's a clear goal- if you're hitting the goal, the method should be irrelevant as far as he's concerned.

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    starting strength coach development program
    ive talked to louie about this very thing and he says the ONLY thing athletes should do In season is dynamic effort work(which im not sure i agree with not doing any heavy work at all). Off season a different story

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