No benching for a beginner

[DV]

Hi Mark,

As has been touched upon in other threads, you are of the opinion that some people should just omit bench, if their shoulders are messed up.

My wife's shoulder is messed up, and she had RC-surgery (for bursitis), and I thank you for your input regarding her operation at that time. For various personal reasons she's been out of the gym long enough to completely detrain. Hence the question:

If she shouldnt bench, what could/should she sub in? She cant do dips @BW currently, neither chins. I'll get working on the last bit (there are good threads on here about that) but regarding pressing I am more in doubt. Would you exclusively have her press, or would you rotate with another pressing movement - and in this case, which?

I've had her do CG bench, which is better than normal bench, but not great. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.

Looking forward to SSBBT3. Hit me up if you start considering that translation to Spanish.

KR

Dave

[Mark Rippetoe]

I'd just have her press. Really. That and some version of chins is all she needs to do for strong healthy shoulders under her circumstances.

[squat_gnome]

I'd just have her press. Really. That and some version of chins is all she needs to do for strong healthy shoulders under her circumstances.

What about the overhead Press itself? can ALL people with do barbell OHP safely? for example I have imbalance shoulders (one shoulder is higher and one is lower), is there any long-term risk for me if I keep pressing barbells? I just want to be sure mentally and focus on my training.

[Foobar40]

Out of curiosity, if you're omitting bench, do you just press 3 times a week and increase linearly? Or make workout 2 a light press day or substitute in something else?

[Mark Rippetoe]

What about the overhead Press itself? can ALL people with do barbell OHP safely?

ALL people can never do EVERYTHING safely.

Out of curiosity, if you're omitting bench, do you just press 3 times a week and increase linearly? Or make workout 2 a light press day or substitute in something else?

That's probably the approach I'd take, or just carefully microload.

[squat_gnome]

ALL people can never do EVERYTHING safely.

OK, but why do you always respond like that? responding to the useless part of the question and leaving out the important part. Everytime I want to ask you something i have to think for long times to program a post that gets the correct response from you, and most of the time I fail. you give me headaches.

Please respond to this only: one of my shoulders is about 0.5cm higher than the other. can I continue to overhead press with barbells safely?

[Roland Conde]

OK, but why do you always respond like that? responding to the useless part of the question and leaving out the important part. Everytime I want to ask you something i have to think for long times to program a post that gets the correct response from you, and most of the time I fail. you give me headaches.

Please respond to this only: one of my shoulders is about 0.5cm higher than the other. can I continue to overhead press with barbells safely?

Because he's not here to think for you. Some questions demonstrate a lack of effort in composition. Some things you need to deduce yourself.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Please respond to this only: one of my shoulders is about 0.5cm higher than the other. can I continue to overhead press with barbells safely?

Do you realize that a 0.5 cm difference in shoulder position is not actually measurable? Do you understand that 0.5 cm = 5mm? Like 4 nickels stacked up. That's like a 1-pound weight gain/loss, easily explained by your toilet habits or lack thereof. Maybe you should just stand up straighter next time the highly-trained shoulder-measuring specialists measure your shoulders.

[Mac Ward]

Do you realize that a 0.5 cm difference in shoulder position is not actually measurable? Do you understand that 0.5 cm = 5mm? Like 4 nickels stacked up. That's like a 1-pound weight gain/loss, easily explained by your toilet habits or lack thereof. Maybe you should just stand up straighter next time the highly-trained shoulder-measuring specialists measure your shoulders.

That answer was priceless. Rip, your common sense approach and thought pattern can be applied to many things. It would save a lot of folks a lot of money and angst if done for themselves.

[squat_gnome]

Do you realize that a 0.5 cm difference in shoulder position is not actually measurable? Do you understand that 0.5 cm = 5mm? Like 4 nickels stacked up. That's like a 1-pound weight gain/loss, easily explained by your toilet habits or lack thereof. Maybe you should just stand up straighter next time the highly-trained shoulder-measuring specialists measure your shoulders.

Thank you. now if you don't mind me asking another one:
one of my shoulders, make a bad "snap" sound everytime I lock and shrug at the top. no pain yet (50kg press). what do you think about that? END OF QUESTION
I don't write anymore because the reason i said before.