Vertical explosion (leap) online training programs... Any feedback anyone?

[MPhelps]

Glad to see the coffee table pic again. Also fixed your linky.

The only umair photo without a dining room chair in it.

[Bill Been]

The key point is that all I did was jumping (I probably did 3 months of squats/deadlifts total in the last 3 years). If I actually start strength training (after I'm healed), my ceiling would most likely be considerably higher.

No. The "key point" is that.....wait for it......you grew up. Now that you're full-grown and almost man-sized, go ahead and train the livin' piss outta that vertical jump. You'll work extremely hard and get back to 32". Thirty-two inches is nothing to sneeze at, by the way. Keep training now, because 32" is your new adult baseline. Keep in mind that all your previous improvement was due to the fact that you grew up. As you work your ass off for further sick azz gains in vertical jump performance, the collected wisdom of the Starting Strength community is that your vertical jump performance will increase no more than 8-10%. In case you're math skills did not grow up alongside your physical growing up (which is what caused your VJ improvement in case you still aren't getting that), that would calculate out to a post-growing-up standing vertical jump of between 34.56 and 35.20 inches. Be prepared, however, for the possibility that growing up caused all of the vertical jump improvement you'll ever see and 32" is actually your max. Which you developed by growing up.

[Adam Skillin]

No. The "key point" is that.....wait for it......you grew up. Now that you're full-grown and almost man-sized, go ahead and train the livin' piss outta that vertical jump. You'll work extremely hard and get back to 32". Thirty-two inches is nothing to sneeze at, by the way. Keep training now, because 32" is your new adult baseline. Keep in mind that all your previous improvement was due to the fact that you grew up. As you work your ass off for further sick azz gains in vertical jump performance, the collected wisdom of the Starting Strength community is that your vertical jump performance will increase no more than 8-10%. In case you're math skills did not grow up alongside your physical growing up (which is what caused your VJ improvement in case you still aren't getting that), that would calculate out to a post-growing-up standing vertical jump of between 34.56 and 35.20 inches. Be prepared, however, for the possibility that growing up caused all of the vertical jump improvement you'll ever see and 32" is actually your max. Which you developed by growing up.

I'm confused, Bill. To what do you attribute the increase in umair's SVJ?

[SJB]

I'm confused, Bill. To what do you attribute the increase in umair's SVJ?

Duh. His training it. Sometimes Adam I wonder about you.

[jwagner]

I'm confused, Bill. To what do you attribute the increase in umair's SVJ?

Linear Progression...

...of age.

[umairsemail]

Linear Progression...

...of age.

My baseline is 26, i'll admit. It is NOT 32".

[umairsemail]

So you guys honestly don't think that jumping improves jumping ability? Seriously.

[John Hanley]

So you guys honestly don't think that jumping improves jumping ability? Seriously.

Brah, it definitely does. But the reality is you go from sucking-ass-at-jumping to sucking-a-little-less-ass-at-jumping or from fucking-amazing-always-stood-out-from-age-10-on to D1-athlete-with-scholarship. Or mediocre to a tiny bit good. You know this is true.

[umairsemail]

Brah, it definitely does. But the reality is you go from sucking-ass-at-jumping to sucking-a-little-less-ass-at-jumping or from fucking-amazing-always-stood-out-from-age-10-on to D1-athlete-with-scholarship. Or mediocre to a tiny bit good. You know this is true.

True, but there are many exceptions. Someone with a naturally amazing CNS, but little strength has more room for improvement than someone who is naturally strong (and relies on it), but has a shitty CNS.

[umairsemail]

Also, I found that jumping actually does increase my 1RM deadlift/squat by a fair amount, as odd and unbelievable as this sounds.

I'm sure it improves my speed of ascent/descent on squats as well, as measured by my Gymaware.