non-bouncing squats

[std01108]

Hello Mr Rippetoe,
would you recommend non-bouncing squats for rehabilitating a tendinitis or meniscus related knee injury? Especially if someone hasn't managed to master the bounce yet.
thanxs

[Mark Rippetoe]

What is a bouncing squat?

[thersites]

I think the OP means to not use rebound out of the bottom of the squat, although I'm not sure how avoiding the rebound would spare those injuries if they can tolerate heavy squats anyway. To the OP, you can always just settle down in the bottom position with a pause before you start coming up. Box squats would also do the trick. Still, unless you know something that suggests the rebound would be a problem to those injuries but squats were still fine, I'd work on getting your form down so you can use the rebound while preserving good form.

[mrflibble]

What is a bouncing squat?

These look potentially quite bouncy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNiokJCbhKI&#t=12s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhoGEBiu10s&#t=0m31s

[std01108]

by non-bouncing i mean sort of pausing at the bottom position. bouncing-squat would be the correct way to squat

[Mark Rippetoe]

By "bouncing" you mean the use of the normal stretch reflex. Both of these injuries may benefit from a paused box squat for a while, to lower the weight used and to reduce the dynamic stress while the injury heals.

Learn to use your upper case letters when you post on this forum.

[Mike C]

By "bouncing" you mean the use of the normal stretch reflex. Both of these injuries may benefit from a paused box squat for a while, to lower the weight used and to reduce the dynamic stress while the injury heals.

Learn to use your upper case letters when you post on this forum.

I'm sure this won't go through...since NONE OF MY POSTS GO THROUGH...but don't box squats cause too much compression on the spine, since force is being applied in both directions?

[Mark Rippetoe]

Many of your posts get deleted because you contribute little to the discussion. Of course box squats can cause spinal compression if they are done incorrectly. But assuming the guy knows how to do them -- a point that should be understood since I said they were okay in this context -- they reduce the dynamic stress on an injured knee. The spinal compression is mitigated by the lower weight made necessary by the pause. This has all been discussed many times, and when you're new to the discussion you should learn to do your homework before you begin to demand attention.

[ZenGeek]

I'm sure this won't go through...since NONE OF MY POSTS GO THROUGH...but don't box squats cause too much compression on the spine, since force is being applied in both directions?

At the bottom of any squat, the force travelling up the spine is equal to the force travelling down it. Otherwise it would still be in motion. In one instance the pelvis is held in place by a box, in the other, by the legs.

Can someone clarify the difference, googling didn't help.

[Dave 321]

At the bottom of any squat, the force travelling up the spine is equal to the force travelling down it. Otherwise it would still be in motion. In one instance the pelvis is held in place by a box, in the other, by the legs.

Can someone clarify the difference, googling didn't help.

Impact on a solid box is probably a bit different from a muscle stretch reflex...