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Thread: Hamstring old injury (asking on behalf of athlete friend)

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    I'm trying to cut through the making fun of and just get a clear cut answer to relay to him. I feel kinda bad, because all this teasing (while healthy if it was towards me, the OP) doesn't really help the guy, he's not even the one posting this, and I can't end up showing him this thread because of it...

    I just asked if I can tell him to follow the program, AS IS, with his injury, or is he just completely fucked and should give up the idea of doing a linear strength training program? Or should he take much smaller increments... I don't know, it's why I asked

    At this point, from what I was able to pick up, I should tell the guy to just work on full range squats and deadlifts for the foreseeable future, lot of reps with perfect technique (or as ripp puts, as perfect as someone his size can manage), while also doing some foam rolling on his hamstrings... ?


    As to the guys beating up on him, his bodytype actually lets him compete at quite a high level. For who follows the sport, there's a good chance they know who he is.

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    Does your fat buddy have access to this board without your help? Do you have to tell him what he can and can't do? Do you also drive him to the World Championships of whatever the fuck it is that he manages to compete in as a fat slob? Look, brazil, I'm not interested in dancing with you. If he can do the program, he should do the program, just like everybody else. He starts with a light weight that displays perfect form, just like everybody else. If he can, because fat slobs have mechanical problems. They also have discipline problems, which is why this is a pointless thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBasic View Post
    +1 staying tuned in . . . . for curious.

    guy who is "good" at his "sport": a 24 year old with a 1.1xBW bench; and a 0.6xBW deadlift?

    I'm guessing bowling

    . . .I'm guessing bowling
    No. Bowlers have been strength training for many, many years now. While some still are big, very few are huge and gross like the dudes at your parents' Friday night mixed fours league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    No. Bowlers have been strength training for many, many years now. While some still are big, very few are huge and gross like the dudes at your parents' Friday night mixed fours league.
    400 lb "athlete"? Professional wrestling.

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    Certainly not, John. You may have noticed that those guys have to move well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Certainly not, John. You may have noticed that those guys have to move well.
    Valid point.
    Billiards? Poker? Are those sports?
    I'm stumped, but I guess it's not for us to know.
    What we do know is that athletes benefit from strength training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John W View Post
    400 lb "athlete"? Professional wrestling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Certainly not, John. You may have noticed that those guys have to move well.
    It's not the 400 lbs that's an issue. That's just a number on a scale. Are you going to dispute that
    Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson is an athlete? He's over 400 lbs. Seems to move pretty well.

    The problem, is that according to the OP:

    Quote Originally Posted by brazilsp View Post
    Little background on my friend. He's almost 400 pounds (very big guy, fat)...

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    Right. My comments were predicated on the OP information, the guy is a fat slob who does not train anything he has to do standing up.

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    Are you guys serious? A person who weights 400 pounds will likely have bigger psychiatric problems besides "lacking discipline".

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    Quote Originally Posted by quad View Post
    Are you guys serious? A person who weights 400 pounds will likely have bigger psychiatric problems besides "lacking discipline".
    Discipline can always help battle the genetic predisposition of obesity, assuming the individual has the genetic issue. American Medical Association’s (AMA) Council on Science and Public Health in 2013 could not even reach a conclusion to call in a disease (the members overruled them and voted it in as disease). So with such controversy and still sitting at the infancy of genetics it’s a bit of a jump to pull in psychiatric problems the core issue. Regardless of the root cause discipline and education can only help and would apply to everyone so that’s a safe general advice for someone you have no firsthand knowledge of.

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