COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[wal]

Define evil in a testable and verifiable way.

That is a good question. It is very difficult to explain evil to folk living in paradise. However I would suggest a re-read of the posts in this thread which have already explained most of the evils in this world.

[Barry Charles]

That is a good question. It is very difficult to explain evil to folk living in paradise. However I would suggest a re-read of the posts in this thread which have already explained most of the evils in this world.

I’m not looking for anything specific nor am I picking a fight, but broad generalizations catch my interest because when they are right they are very useful. However being right has to have have precise definitions (at least close enough for us).

You seem to have issue with the age of the planet and tie that with the evolution of “evil”. While we probably shouldn’t debate planetology, I would be interested in your thoughts on evil and evolution. I’m still on the fence as to if we are seeing the evil going up or down and what time scales that happens on.

[francesco.decaro]

Alexey Pertsev, the developer of the most widely-used privacy mechanism for cryptocurrencies, has been in jail for about as long as you've been an unrealistic technology lolbertarian.



Seizing all of those physical goods is intractable. Halting Bitcoin - which must, by its nature, be widely accessible and continuously operated - is as simple as blocking TCP port 8333.

Julian Assange has been locked out for a long time too, does that mesn we give up on freedom of speech?

You've said that before, and I ask again, if it's so simple, why haven't they done it? The more they wait the worse it is. How would the blockage of this TCP port 8333 stop anyone from simply creating another version of Bitcoin?

[Mark Rippetoe]

That is a very interesting post Mark. You realise of course that you being a reasonably high profile personality will have to now buy an electric car to show us how we can all save the planet. There is only one point however that I would disagree with what you have posted and that is the age of the earth. 4.6 billion years for the age of the earth would mean if we were an evolved species does not explain how the world has become so evil.

wal, old boy, you're slipping away.

[Jovan Dragisic]

I agree that there are probably better ways to do this, but when the state is forcing you to pay for stuff anyway, it would at least be preferable if it wasn't spent on things that actively try to destroy the middle class. Clown World sets a very low bar.

I wouldn’t be against a one off payment per child. Running a long program in which women are put on the dole is subject to political meandering and it seems more like a ploy to get votes than anything else. I don’t hate Orban, but he seems short sighted to me in many respects.

[Satch12879]

RFK JR on the CIA and pandemics

If one were a conspiracy theorist, one might speculate Bobby Jr is trying his hardest to continue the Kennedy/CIA tradition.

I'm guessing 'they' will not allow Robert to get very far in the race for POTUS - but would it be fair to say he won't just roll over like Bernie did? Such a shame his voice is damaged - he has a lot of important things to say.

AUKUS designed to remove public resistance to Australia stationing US nuclear submarines


Speaking of voices - the Australian Prime Minister's is almost as bad as Pilate in Monty Python's Life of Brian. It's somehow very apt for the times we're living in.

RFK, Jr. is no threat to anyone. His family, all neutralized by intermarrying with spooks, will take care of him. The Democrats have hated the Kennedys for a long time. The establishment left nothing to chance. It’s a Boomer fantasy.

[wal]

I’m not looking for anything specific nor am I picking a fight, but broad generalizations catch my interest because when they are right they are very useful. However being right has to have have precise definitions (at least close enough for us).

You seem to have issue with the age of the planet and tie that with the evolution of “evil”. While we probably shouldn’t debate planetology, I would be interested in your thoughts on evil and evolution. I’m still on the fence as to if we are seeing the evil going up or down and what time scales that happens on.

I know you are not picking a fight, but I find folk that believe in an old earth are generally evolutionists who would suggest that natural selection would eventually lead to a utopia which it has not and it cannot explain why we appear to be degenerating into a lower species. We seem to be devolving rather than evolving hence the evil that surrounds us.

However the age of the planet is a point that it debatable, but evil, that is something else. Evil can be as subtle as a lie to down right malevolent. This is my opinion and I could be wrong, but I do not see the world we now live in as evolving into a utopia, it appears we are on the eve of destruction, I mean the nations are raging, the folk at home are fearful of the events which are unfolding on this earth. I do not see any hope for the current world unless of course the coach returns soon to stop us from blowing up the whole game.

wal, old boy, you're slipping away.

Slipping away? yep, I guess I am, however I am still lifting so I have slowed the process down somewhat. Thanks to you Dad.

[Nicholas Laureys]

If anyone is interested in anticausal's argument, Hungarian women get a permanent maternal leave after bearing their third child, meaning the rest of Hungarian society pays for couples having kids. My counter argument is that I don't want the state forcing me to pay for someone else's offspring, no matter how much it strengthens the national corpus.

I agree that there are probably better ways to do this, but when the state is forcing you to pay for stuff anyway, it would at least be preferable if it wasn't spent on things that actively try to destroy the middle class. Clown World sets a very low bar.

Anticausal was rhetorically generous; he is right but not adequately incredulous at your false dichotomy, Jovan. Sadly, if the money isn't spent on the ostensibly patriotic, family-loving Hungarian woman's maternity leave, it ain't going back in your DINK-y pockets, there's a whole bunch of bureaucrats with PROGRAMz itching to redistribute that serf ca$h (I thought we went over this before with your EU Green New Deal subsidies? But there are many more parties than just the developer and hospitality oligarchs who want in on the government funding game: use your imagination or watch some Tik Toks from select US cities).

[Satch12879]

A fellow whom I have some respect for offered a somewhat comforting observation recently about another topic, but whose sentiment could be easily applied to the evil of our times:

Every age has its own evil; our evil now is uniquely suited to our own age.

I don’t know if I completely agree, but it’s a white pill of sorts.

[Nicholas Laureys]

How could they not have foreseen that a society without these moral ties, even with the most advanced constitution of its time (or ever), would ultimately flounder? I'm aware that one of the founders in his musings wrote that only a moral citizenry could handle this system of government, but why did he assume that morality was the natural condition of man and would prevail without being codified (such as through a state-sponsered religion) into the governing documents?

There is probably something to that, but the constitution failed at the Civil War, long before that would become a problem. So the Achilles' heel had to have been something else.

Honestly, it might all boil down to not picking our own fucking cotton. America's addiction to imported, cheap, foreign labor is at the root of almost everything.

I would hope it were that simple but only WESTERN countries with a slavery past are proud members of Clown World so there must be some other causative factor. I listened intently to how, over a few interviews now, MacGregor has mentioned that imperial Russia understood a few times that it would be more expensive (materially as well as in the context of maintaining strength of cohesion) to try to rule (and invade) these foreign lands directly, as opposed to allowing them some bit of autonomy. Modern Russia has all these "Autonomous Republics" scattered about, and I don't know how much of that is Potemkin autonomy, but the many many different peoples living here do seem more united on national issues. Was it simply too audacious and optimistic to try to assimilate all these different peoples and cultures into our land; the more we did this, the more we became an economic free trade zone as opposed to a nation; right? I'm sticking for now with my observation of the inherent suicidal nature of lending too much political and social power to minority voices, which I think is the point Matt Jackson (but his ideas also sound too White-Supremacist-icky for most Americans) had been trying to make many many pages ago.

In any fucking case that may all be BS and the causative link (what has led to our slow-boil demise) is something much simpler and more banal. But rather than politely debate about it endlessly why not at least DO something? If America is only slightly wounded start doing something about it (but it needs to start being the 'yucky' stuff); if it's a mortal wound get the fuck out while you still can before getting sprayed with blood and guts. As for the former, I have not the energy nor desire to spend so much time trying to change the political and social situations (just like the "fixing your local schools" metaphor I introduced long ago). And if flight seems like the best option, just remember: America was essentially always the best option out there, of course things weren't prefect here, and so all you're really doing is choosing the NEXT "best option available" nation to start anew for the sake of your children and grand-children.

If you decide the government is allowed to forcefully silence its opponents, the people they come for won't be antifa and BLM protesters.

"Deciding the government is allowed" is cucked Republican thinking. Of course you don't do that because it would be utterly retarded. You make opponents go missing in the dark of night without a trace. I've always said I wish we had someone with Hillary Clinton's body count on our side. Imagine if a Trump with actual balls came along, followed by a wave of guys like Soros dying in plane crashes and suicides to the back of the head. That would be fucking awesome. Back to Nicholas' point, it's kind of what Putin is, which is why he's so popular outside of Clown World.

The sad truth anticausal, as I think the Tucker's and all other pundits and "right" politicians demonstrate, is that they DON'T think that would be fucking awesome. They still believe in their heart of hearts that this can be "cleanly" resolved without any fight, by simply hiding deep behind enemy lines.