How should chinups be programmed in the advanced novice LP once you can do 20 chins?

[huskers1998]

Once you are already doing 3x5 with weight alternated with 3xBW chinups on the advanced LP and you can do around 20 or so reps of BW chinups. What is the correct way to progress with chinups should weight be added so that you stay in the 10-15 rep range range?

[Mark Rippetoe]

Weighted chins for sets of 5 is the best way. But you seem to like high reps, so go ahead.

[biggah_traps]

Weighted chins for sets of 5 is the best way. But you seem to like high reps, so go ahead.

So do you now think weighted chins should be programmed like the barbell lifts, with progressively overloaded sets of 5? That's how I've always trained them, which I recall being SS heresy a few years ago

[Mark Rippetoe]

I don't think anything is accomplished by a bunch of warmup sets at increasing weight, if that's what you mean. I think you do some bodyweight chins, hit one intermediate set for a double, and then do 3 sets of 5, going up a pound occasionally.

[biggah_traps]

I don't think anything is accomplished by a bunch of warmup sets at increasing weight, if that's what you mean. I think you do some bodyweight chins, hit one intermediate set for a double, and then do 3 sets of 5, going up a pound occasionally.

No, I mean linearly progressed for sets of 5. So 3 sets of 5 at +20lbs on Monday, 3 sets of 5 at +22.5 lbs on Friday, 3 sets of 5 at +25 lbs next Wednesday. They way you'd progress ohp and bench.

Then treated like the bench press on intermediate (obviously there's more than one way to progress an intermediate bench, so why I'm being less specific)

[huskers1998]

Weighted chins for sets of 5 is the best way. But you seem to like high reps, so go ahead.

Thank you. I just want to follow the routine. I have no interest in doing higher reps if that is not recommended. But in starting strength 3 you recommend doing half with bodyweight and the other half 3x5. As well as you stating something similar in this comment SS and Weighted pull/chin ups
So I wanted to confirm with you. So the ideal for an advanced novice LP would be just 3x5 sets across linear progression and forget about higher rep stuff at this point since I can already do 20?

[Mark Rippetoe]

No, I mean linearly progressed for sets of 5. So 3 sets of 5 at +20lbs on Monday, 3 sets of 5 at +22.5 lbs on Friday, 3 sets of 5 at +25 lbs next Wednesday. They way you'd progress ohp and bench.

Doesn't work. But try it and see.

Thank you. I just want to follow the routine. I have no interest in doing higher reps if that is not recommended. But in starting strength 3 you recommend doing half with bodyweight and the other half 3x5. As well as you stating something similar in this comment SS and Weighted pull/chin ups
So I wanted to confirm with you. So the ideal for an advanced novice LP would be just 3x5 sets across linear progression and forget about higher rep stuff at this point since I can already do 20?

Chins are an assistance exercise. Do them any way you want to.

[huskers1998]

Doesn't work. But try it and see.



Chins are an assistance exercise. Do them any way you want to.

I would like to do what you think is best. Since you know millions of times more about programming than I do. Is 3x5 what you would recommend?

No, I mean linearly progressed for sets of 5. So 3 sets of 5 at +20lbs on Monday, 3 sets of 5 at +22.5 lbs on Friday, 3 sets of 5 at +25 lbs next Wednesday. They way you'd progress ohp and bench.

Then treated like the bench press on intermediate (obviously there's more than one way to progress an intermediate bench, so why I'm being less specific)

I don't have the book infront of me, but in the blue book I believe its 1 or 1.5lb jumps or maybe 2lb jumps but its not 2.5

[biggah_traps]

Doesn't work. But try it and see.



Chins are an assistance exercise. Do them any way you want to.

I have tried it and have reached +80 lbs for 5 at 190 lbs. That's slightly more than I can bench

[Mark Rippetoe]

Traps is your resource here, since I've never been able to make this work.