Mark have you come across a study such as this – Lower Dietary and Circulating Vitamin C in Middle- and Older-Aged Men and Women Are Associated with Lower Estimated Skeletal Muscle Mass – suggesting that vitamin C helps to maintain muscle mass in older people? I don't see anything regarding strength training, maybe it is nonsense.
What else might the people with higher lean body mass have in common, besides higher vitamin C?
Or what do the people with lower lean body mass have in common, besides lower vitamin c? Probably shit nutrition and no exercise habits to speak of. It's hard to isolate one thing like that and say for sure it has this profound effect.
It's the age-old cause-and-effect/correlation confusion. Science is hard sometimes.
Here’s another good one: Use of creatine and protein powders linked to alcoholism later in life, study claims
Such strong, compelling evidence!
Creatine and protein powders are "performance enhancing substances?" No bias there. I had a 16oz performance enhancing ribeye last night too. Chock full of protein and creatine.
Uh oh, I have been craving a whole lot of booze lately. But I think that's just the effect of this fucking year.
Over the last year, I tore my left meniscus and suffered a partial tear to my right MCL (meniscus in Aug 2018 and MCL in March 2019). I finally had my meniscus trimmed Aug 2019 and a few weeks later I was ready to start training again. I’m 6 weeks into your program and my strength gains are coming baking nicely. 2 weeks ago I started training Jiu Jitsu again. My typical classes are Monday, Wednesday, and Friday nights... the same days I lift (I lift early in the morning before work). Due to some competitions coming up, many of our grapplers are in comp prep mode and we are rolling pretty hard, which means I’m pretty sore a day or two after class.
Do you suggest I continue this current schedule or bump my lifting days a day back to tues thurs and sat? I know that I’m going to be sore no matter what, but it doesn’t seem to be affecting my strength when I’m lifting.
Since I have no way of knowing how hard you're actually training, I suggest you try it both ways for two weeks each and see which works best for you. Make sure you're eating enough.
The biggest concern here is not the soreness - further injuring a joint is. Training post-injury with people preparing for competition is not something I'd recommend. If they hurt you (even if it's just a random fuck up), neither you nor they are going to be better for it.
I have not had a meniscus tear or repair, so I can't specifically tell you what results you're going to get. However, training with active competitors is grueling and injuries happen far more often as a result. When I'm injured and want to roll with someone, I make sure they understand I'm not looking to roll like it's Worlds. If they are training for competition, they may decide they don't want to roll with me. That's fine.
How long have you been training jiu jitsu?
If you can be disciplined enough to not go ape-shit on the mats on every single roll, it doesn't matter too much when you lift. Just do the version that will keep you compliant with your workouts in the gym and try to keep your ego in check on the mat. If everyone else is in competition mode and you're not, you're just going to get tapped a bunch more.
Thanks for the input... I’m not really concerned about the soreness... that’s temporary because I just got back into rolling hard after close to a year of light rolling while injured and then recovering from the surgery. My knee feels fine now. My concern is recovery from workouts... I’ll continue with the M, W, F workouts for a few more weeks and then switch to T, T, S and see how I feel and how I’m progressing in the program.
I’ve been training for 13 years. Got promoted to brown belt last year. I tore my meniscus shortly after and my training came to a screeching halt.
I really think that you're going to be perfectly fine. The advice to take it easy at Jiu Jitsu is for people with less experience rolling. You already know how to manage your stress level on the mat, so lift whenever works best for your schedule to stay compliant three days/week. You'll move your programming along to advanced novice and then intermediate sooner than someone not doing Jiu Jitsu, so just progress your training variables when you need to - don't miss lifting workouts, eat more than you're used to, and keep adding weight to the bar workout to workout at first, then twice a week, then once a week.
Then forget what I said.
You know where you stand, and Nick's advice is right.
Thanks again... The eating more part is the biggest change for me, but it's been pretty easy because I've been starving ever since I got back to training BJJ. Because of the knee surgery in Aug, I started with relatively light weight for most of the movements but am now getting into some challenging weights. The heavy weights plus hard BJJ sessions has me wanting to eat constantly.
BTW, I started week 6 of my program today and my working set on the press was more than I've ever done for a 1RM... I guess this stuff works.
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