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[vkp78]

It's funny how folks from other countries, take great pleasure in criticizing American politicians (and Americans). They know if they expressed dissent with their own political class or commented on socio economic issues in their country with the same vigor, they would go to prison.

[Matt Jackson]

I've thought about this quite a bit since that portion of the conversation. Mostly because I find myself having to agree and being mad about it. I want to agree with AC. Hell, some parts of his comments sound exactly like what I'd say. I just don't think we work that way as a species.

When the overwhelming majority of people in Western nations thought the same, shared the same culture, values, norms, and broadly came from the same European stock - this individualistic "live and let live" model worked. For a time.

The problem is, only White people think this way and behave this way (largely because we've believed the idea that it's the correct, moral thing to do). Now, White people are the minority in America.

The post-WW2 "Right" has spent the entire time focusing 100% of its energy pretending to believe that groups don't exist. This is where have arrived in the West as a result.

The accepted values of the so-called Left and Right have to be totally revised for any change to happen on order to correct things.

A lot of people on this forum have firmly bought into the political slop news cycle and are currently doing the whole "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" thing. They forget the thousands of times they already thought this over the last 80 years.

The entire political system, as it is, with this false left/right dichotomy, only exists to ensure that absolutely nothing changes, and that *some ideas* always remain off the table.

We should examine this false political dichotomy more here.

[Johnsonville]

You would rather have the Mexican cartels continue to control government in Arizona?
It is comments like this that make me agree with Matt.
The right-wing useful idiots are still far too comfortable to support America First policy
We haven't won anything yet; not even close.

Maybe Johnsonville can chide us again about how we aren't to complain about an average house costing 10X the average salary in 2024 vs 2-3X the average salary in 1980?

You were probably still bitching when they were practically giving houses away ten years ago

[golftdibrad]

Did I not say that? "Matt Gaetz, he looks like he is a more aggressive appointment than RFKJ and appears to be going for the your DOJ and the FBI, the heart of Trumps enemies."

...and followed up with

I reckon that Trump will take the US from a republic to an empire.

and eluded to it being a catalyst to destruction like the fall of Rome.

And again, I think that is exactly backwards. The US is already a failing empire; perhaps this administration will put us on track to becoming a successful republic again. It will at least hopefully be a stay of execution.


Anyway, another good one from the cat. There is an excellent line in there that if slightly modified makes for an outstand quote:

Leftism is secular religion for the over educated and under critical.

LGB vs TQIAXYZ+ - by el gato malo - bad cattitude

[Mark Rippetoe]

When the overwhelming majority of people in Western nations thought the same, shared the same culture, values, norms, and broadly came from the same European stock - this individualistic "live and let live" model worked. For a time.

The problem is, only White people think this way and behave this way (largely because we've believed the idea that it's the correct, moral thing to do). Now, White people are the minority in America.

The post-WW2 "Right" has spent the entire time focusing 100% of its energy pretending to believe that groups don't exist. This is where have arrived in the West as a result.

The accepted values of the so-called Left and Right have to be totally revised for any change to happen on order to correct things.

A lot of people on this forum have firmly bought into the political slop news cycle and are currently doing the whole "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" thing. They forget the thousands of times they already thought this over the last 80 years.

The entire political system, as it is, with this false left/right dichotomy, only exists to ensure that absolutely nothing changes, and that *some ideas* always remain off the table.

We should examine this false political dichotomy more here.

I'll ask again: Would you rather that Kammie had won the election?

[mkm5]

I'll ask again: Would you rather that Kammie had won the election?

I agree with Matt's blunt assessment of the shit show we're living in, but Coach is correct, it could be getting much worse if the DEI hire got in office.

[wal]

...and followed up with and eluded to it being a catalyst to destruction like the fall of Rome.

And again, I think that is exactly backwards. The US is already a failing empire; perhaps this administration will put us on track to becoming a successful republic again. It will at least hopefully be a stay of execution.


Anyway, another good one from the cat. There is an excellent line in there that if slightly modified makes for an outstand quote:

Leftism is secular religion for the over educated and under critical.

LGB vs TQIAXYZ+ - by el gato malo - bad cattitude

I would say that your experiment with the democrats and their style of government which was an absolute failure on a scale that cannot be measured was a perfect setup for someone like Trump to come and install a autocratic government. Whether he can give you the "golden age" he promised I do not know, but I think you will be surprised how far he will go to achieve it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6x38zppJU

[Jason Donaldson]

Anyway, another good one from the cat. There is an excellent line in there that if slightly modified makes for an outstand quote:

Leftism is secular religion for the over educated and under critical.

LGB vs TQIAXYZ+ - by el gato malo - bad cattitude

The Jen Psaki clip at the beginning is of a tiresome, standard argument format:

No one's doing X.
And even if they are doing X, there's not a lot of X happening.
And even if there is a lot of X happening, the effects of X are not a big deal.
And even if the effects of X are a big deal, you're wrong for thinking so, noticing it, or wanting to change it.
In fact, if you do not embrace and celebrate X, you are actually the problem.

[Subby]

It's funny how folks from other countries, take great pleasure in criticizing American politicians (and Americans). They know if they expressed dissent with their own political class or commented on socio economic issues in their country with the same vigor, they would go to prison.

I'm sure marching to the countries capital to peacefully assemble and express grievances won't get you arrested.

I haven't seen much concrete information re the Russian ICBM strike on Ukraine. There are some grainy videos of near vertical impacts at extreme speed alleged to be missile impacts which the most convincing explanation I've heard is that they are decoys/the main missile/s weren't loaded with explosives.

I don't have faith that the US state department will be deterred from this moral "at all costs" crusade and avoid striking Moscow directly.

Previously terrible things have been avoided because Men like Petrov and Arkhipov took what would have at the time, been sacrificial actions to avoid escalating to a full nuclear exchange. I'm not convinced anyone like that remains within the US military to stop it.

[Mark Rippetoe]

I would say that your experiment with the democrats and their style of government which was an absolute failure on a scale that cannot be measured was a perfect setup for someone like Trump to come and install a autocratic government. Whether he can give you the "golden age" he promised I do not know, but I think you will be surprised how far he will go to achieve it.

Just like he did the first time. Right, wal?