Starting Strength Weekly Report


June 23, 2025


Du Edition 

On Starting Strength
  • The Gillenwaters and the Gyms – Starting Strength Gyms' very own Ray, Ben, and Jen Gillenwater join Rip on the show to discuss operations, political and regulatory climates, and training at the Gyms.
  • Don’t Jump Ship by Steve Ross – If there’s one thing that never changes with people who reach out saying they’re doing Starting Strength, it’s this: they ran the LP, the bar slowed down and shit got hard, so they bailed out...
  • Hamburger and Rice – Rip shows how to make a simple, time-tested, and delicious mash of hamburger and rice.
  • Harder to Kill by Bruce Trout – Who am I? Well, I suppose that depends on who you ask. I am a husband, a father, a son and to some a hero. I don’t want to get ahead of myself so let me start with the basics...
  • The Iron Plate Problem – It's really not a problem, as Rip explains.
  • Weekend Archives: Weak Grip and Its Effects on the Deadlift by Andrew Lewis – Your deadlift may be failing because of your grip. An obvious indicator is that you can feel the bar slipping out of your hands. However, there are two more subtle indicators to be aware of...
  • Weekend Archives: First Things First by Mark Rippetoe – “Because that's the way we do it” is never an acceptable answer to a question. Neither is “It's always worked for me,” or “That's the way I was taught, and I've always done it this way.”


In the Trenches

aaron at the bottom of a 295 squat
New York camp trainee Aaron hits a 295lb squat on his 3rd set of 5 while coached by Chris Palladino. [photo courtesy of Greg]
mike locks out a 315 deadlift
Mike locks out his 5th rep at 315lb at this past weekend's Starting Strength Squat and Deadlift Camp led SSC Chris Palladino. [photo courtesy of Jeff]
connie locks out a deadlift
Darlene wrapped up her workout with enough time to cheer on her younger sister and fellow Starting Strength Cincinnati member Connie as she wraps up hers. [photo courtesy of Luke Schroeder]
blake finishes a 135 press
With this 135 press at Starting Strength Atlanta locked out, Blake Moser sets his vision on the next milestones of 185, then 200. [photo courtesy of Adam Martin]
zakir sets a deadlift pr of 315
Jeff coaches Zakir as he sets a deadlift PR of 315lbs for 5 reps at Starting Strength Boston. [photo courtesy of Stephen Babbitt]
steve ross and pete troupos at brussels barbell
Starting Strength Coaches are a tight knit group, so when visiting each other’s cities they make it a point to connect. Pete was in Belgium recently and was able to catch up with The World’s Tallest SSC, Steve Ross at Brussels Barbell. [photo courtesy of Pete Troupos]

Meet Report

At Testify Strength & Conditioning's IronFest meet, Charlie Treat and Abbie Treat took 1st place in the Open Female/Female team division, Dave Hahn and Jamie Morrissey took 1st place in the Open Male/Female team division, Conner Stutheit and Andy Miesbach took 1st place in the Open Male/Male team division, and JoAnn Sansbury and Peg Fleissner took 1st place in the Masters Female/Female team division. View full results.

dave mid bench press
Dave bench presses 260 lb for a successful second attempt at this weekend's IronFest VII, an annual partner-based competition at Testify Strength & Conditioning in Omaha, NE. Dave went 6-for-6 on the evening, and his team took first place in the Open Male/Female division. [photo courtesy of Phil Meggers]
four treat family members lift in competition
The Treat family showed up in force at IronFest! Clockwise from top-left, father Dave, daughter Abbie, daughter Charlie, and son Nate all lifted together (and against each other!) in the partner-based meet. [photo courtesy of Phil Meggers]
ironfest vii group photo
Despite the thermometer topping 100 degrees, everyone showed up for a fun evening and lots of PRs at this weekend's IronFest VII in Omaha, NE, and they didn't even complain too loudly about bunching together for this post-meet group photo. [photo courtesy of Phil Meggers]

Get Involved

Best of the Week

Seeking clarity

Apekshjain

I’m a bit confused about where to begin. I’ve been following a bodybuilding program for the past two years. When I started, I weighed 95 kg. Over the next 9 months, I cut down to 78 kg, then bulked back up to 88 kg in about 6 months. I’ve been trying to cut again but seem to be stuck at 86 kg.

During my initial cut, I was eating around 1800 calories. While trying to gain, I bumped it up to about 2200. For the past 7–8 months, I’ve been eating around 2000 calories with about 130g of protein daily. I’ve noticed some loose skin hanging around my waist and chest, which was there even before I started this program.

Currently, my waistline measures 37 inches. Despite consistent training, I don’t feel much stronger. I'm starting to wonder if I might be dealing with some form of disordered eating.

Here’s a quick summary of my current lifts:

* Deadlift: 110 kg for 4 reps

* Squat: Still struggling

* Bench Press: 90 kg for 8 reps

* Overhead Press: 40 kg for 10 reps

I’m 29 now and approaching 30. My goals have changed—I want to become stronger. But I feel overwhelmed and confused, especially with all the conflicting information online (Instagram, in particular, doesn’t help).

My questions:

1. Do you think I might be dealing with an eating disorder?

2. I want to focus on strength—where should I begin, training-wise?

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I really appreciate your guidance.

Robert Santana

1) Yes

2) You are weak and underfed. 3000 calories and add weight to the bar.

Simple enough.

Jason Donaldson

Maybe this is a presumptuous hunch, Apeksh, but based on your user name, are you following a restricted diet for religious or cultural reasons, by any chance, especially in regards to your protein sources?

Apekshjain

I followed restricted diet as per the "bodybuilding program". But my food choice is restricted to vegetarian for religious reasons.

Robert Santana

Vegetarian is only going to take you so far. Vegan will take you one step from nowhere.


Best of the Forum

Helping my 15yr old son

mzanassi85

My son started weight training in his high school, and we go to the gym together and lift occasionally, he tells me that his teacher has everyone in the class max once every two weeks and they do a wierd pyramid type program. Personally I dont like that and I feel its a good way to get the kids hurt doing what the teacher says, I've given him my copy of your book (but any parent will know getting a teen to read a book is usually like hearding cats.) for him to study and I've helped him develop good form on his lifts. When we go to the gym together we do your program the way its written, he likes it better than what he does at school and feels it'll make him stronger which I totally agree with.

Two lifts he is usually hesitant to do are squats and the OHP, he says they're uncomfortable or awkward to do, I tell him its normal and that his body will get used to it, is there anything else I can do to help him? Also looking for any advise in general about training teens, currently he doesnt do any sports but he really enjoys weight lifting.

Mark Rippetoe

First, if your son's health and injury status is important to you, you have to understand that there are about 10 coaches in the public schools of the United States of America who actually know what they're doing in the weight room. His odds are not good. Here's some reading for you:

Can You Put Your Kids on a Strength Training Program?

Why Your Kids Should Be Lifting Weights

Jared Hunt

My kid is an underweight freshman at a high school renowned for taking average athletes and making them into a championship caliber football team, building big strong guys, etc. I’ve been severely disappointed in the “program” they have them do, which consists of a lot of variety in the weight room (lots of trap bar and front squats, naturally) and a ton of cardio, in and out of season. Very little consideration seems to be given to sleep and food, judging by the schedule they have them on.

My assumption is they have built their reputation on taking overweight guys and getting them in relatively great shape by working the hell out of them. If it works for them, great, but they are leaving a lot of strength gains on the table and the underweight guys are SOL unless they can manage to gain weight in their little off-time.

Mark Rippetoe

And it really is a pointless discussion. You need to homeschool and get him away from these fools. I know there are problems with this, but I assure you there will be problems with leaving him there.

Sean Berry

Unless you have control of the program, this is truth. Their's is a shotgun approach and the athletes with the appropriate genetics succeed...with a large enough sample, you get enough outliers to be able to do this. The football part not withstanding - but if you win a few championships, it recruits itself.

Or he could come to the bustling metropolis of Chillicothe, Texas.

My son (n=1) has gone from 125lb 9th grader to a 195lb 10th grader with lifts going up correspondingly.





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